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	<title>Comments on: Firefox 3 &#8211; Back Button UI Annoyance</title>
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		<title>By: deeyhaw</title>
		<link>http://www.andersramsay.com/2008/06/11/firefox-3-back-button-ui-annoyance/comment-page-1#comment-14886</link>
		<dc:creator>deeyhaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 08:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See NoUn Buttons addon:
&lt;a href=&quot;https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7056&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Link&lt;/a&gt;
You can place dropdowns where you want...
Doesn&#039;t work with any theme, but does with most...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See NoUn Buttons addon:<br />
<a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7056" rel="nofollow">Link</a><br />
You can place dropdowns where you want&#8230;<br />
Doesn&#8217;t work with any theme, but does with most&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.andersramsay.com/2008/06/11/firefox-3-back-button-ui-annoyance/comment-page-1#comment-13132</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, this is stupid.

They should have at least made the &quot;history drop down&quot; another toolbar object.  amirite?!!11</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, this is stupid.</p>
<p>They should have at least made the &#8220;history drop down&#8221; another toolbar object.  amirite?!!11</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.andersramsay.com/2008/06/11/firefox-3-back-button-ui-annoyance/comment-page-1#comment-12358</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 21:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a terrible design and very annoying. With the old method, if you wanted to go back two pages, you select the second item below the back button. Now you need to click on the dropdown, find the dot, and then click on the second item below the dot (or is it above?).

I continue to stick with SeaMonkey, from which Firefox is a fork. The drivers for Firefox love to say that everything can be fixed in a plugin and it doesn&#039;t belong in the browser, but installing insecure plugins is a risk, even if you can find just the one you want (I can&#039;t find any that fix this problem).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a terrible design and very annoying. With the old method, if you wanted to go back two pages, you select the second item below the back button. Now you need to click on the dropdown, find the dot, and then click on the second item below the dot (or is it above?).</p>
<p>I continue to stick with SeaMonkey, from which Firefox is a fork. The drivers for Firefox love to say that everything can be fixed in a plugin and it doesn&#8217;t belong in the browser, but installing insecure plugins is a risk, even if you can find just the one you want (I can&#8217;t find any that fix this problem).</p>
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		<title>By: Zacq</title>
		<link>http://www.andersramsay.com/2008/06/11/firefox-3-back-button-ui-annoyance/comment-page-1#comment-12148</link>
		<dc:creator>Zacq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the idea, but it should be an larger button between the two to indicate that this is a new fancy thingy, correctly placed chronologically. That&#039;s intuition to me.

BTW right-clicking the back-button shows the history as well. I&#039;m using it in the transition period and it doesn&#039;t &quot;cost&quot; more mouse clicks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea, but it should be an larger button between the two to indicate that this is a new fancy thingy, correctly placed chronologically. That&#8217;s intuition to me.</p>
<p>BTW right-clicking the back-button shows the history as well. I&#8217;m using it in the transition period and it doesn&#8217;t &#8220;cost&#8221; more mouse clicks.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Tommers</title>
		<link>http://www.andersramsay.com/2008/06/11/firefox-3-back-button-ui-annoyance/comment-page-1#comment-10791</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Tommers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, this is a bad UI decision. Reminds me of the Microsoft menus that constantly reorder (and truncate) based on which operations you do most often. Consistency is important in UI design and not having an intuitive forward/backward is a large mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this is a bad UI decision. Reminds me of the Microsoft menus that constantly reorder (and truncate) based on which operations you do most often. Consistency is important in UI design and not having an intuitive forward/backward is a large mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.andersramsay.com/2008/06/11/firefox-3-back-button-ui-annoyance/comment-page-1#comment-10668</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto, I hate this. It&#039;s bad UI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto, I hate this. It&#8217;s bad UI.</p>
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		<title>By: The Blog of Harald &#187; firefox 3 back button</title>
		<link>http://www.andersramsay.com/2008/06/11/firefox-3-back-button-ui-annoyance/comment-page-1#comment-7760</link>
		<dc:creator>The Blog of Harald &#187; firefox 3 back button</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 22:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] extremely annoying! This finally bothered me enough that I performed a Google search, and found Firefox 3 &#8211; Back Button UI Annoyance which explains that that little arrow next to the Forward button is actually a history menu for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] extremely annoying! This finally bothered me enough that I performed a Google search, and found Firefox 3 &#8211; Back Button UI Annoyance which explains that that little arrow next to the Forward button is actually a history menu for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vic</title>
		<link>http://www.andersramsay.com/2008/06/11/firefox-3-back-button-ui-annoyance/comment-page-1#comment-6183</link>
		<dc:creator>Vic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A work around extension is available - NoUn button.  It almost restores the FF2 operation - instead of holding the mouse on the back/forward button to get the drop down list, it adds another drop down to the left of the back button which you have to click on.
But at least its intuitive (to me at least).

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7056

A disadvantage is that it reportedly only runs on Windoze.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A work around extension is available &#8211; NoUn button.  It almost restores the FF2 operation &#8211; instead of holding the mouse on the back/forward button to get the drop down list, it adds another drop down to the left of the back button which you have to click on.<br />
But at least its intuitive (to me at least).</p>
<p><a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7056" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7056</a></p>
<p>A disadvantage is that it reportedly only runs on Windoze.</p>
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		<title>By: Rorge Retson</title>
		<link>http://www.andersramsay.com/2008/06/11/firefox-3-back-button-ui-annoyance/comment-page-1#comment-6182</link>
		<dc:creator>Rorge Retson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new way is stupid, non-intiutive, and a load of bullocks.  The FF 3.0 &quot;fix&quot; smacks of Microsoft in that there was a fix for a problem that never existed.  It&#039;s like &quot;here&#039;s your new car...it only has three wheels now, but you&#039;ll get used to it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new way is stupid, non-intiutive, and a load of bullocks.  The FF 3.0 &#8220;fix&#8221; smacks of Microsoft in that there was a fix for a problem that never existed.  It&#8217;s like &#8220;here&#8217;s your new car&#8230;it only has three wheels now, but you&#8217;ll get used to it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Angel</title>
		<link>http://www.andersramsay.com/2008/06/11/firefox-3-back-button-ui-annoyance/comment-page-1#comment-5987</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Josh. Firefox 2 has a dropdown in the back button and a dropdown in the forward button, so it&#039;s intuitive to go 3 pages back, or 2 pages forward. With the new system (which has irritated me for 2 reasons: it is new, it is inconvenient in my opinion and finally the 3rd, I thought it had been copied from IE7 -now I see it may be the other way around, since I just upgraded to Ff3-
Maybe it&#039;s just a question of getting used to it. Thanks for the explanations

And to Philip: but you can move the buttons around, put them to the right if you prefer. That&#039;s the beauty of Ff customization (you cannot move anything in IE7, for example)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Josh. Firefox 2 has a dropdown in the back button and a dropdown in the forward button, so it&#8217;s intuitive to go 3 pages back, or 2 pages forward. With the new system (which has irritated me for 2 reasons: it is new, it is inconvenient in my opinion and finally the 3rd, I thought it had been copied from IE7 -now I see it may be the other way around, since I just upgraded to Ff3-<br />
Maybe it&#8217;s just a question of getting used to it. Thanks for the explanations</p>
<p>And to Philip: but you can move the buttons around, put them to the right if you prefer. That&#8217;s the beauty of Ff customization (you cannot move anything in IE7, for example)</p>
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