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		<title>The Problem with Todo lists (the digital ones)</title>
		<link>http://www.andersramsay.com/2009/01/01/the-problem-with-todo-lists-the-digital-ones</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 22:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#8217;s imagine for a moment that you&#8217;re some seniorish UX design person and I&#8217;m your client and I ask you to design for me a truly durable and useful todo list. I can imagine a variety of reactions to this request. One might be &#8220;Why in the world do you need me to design a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s imagine for a moment that you&#8217;re some seniorish UX design person and I&#8217;m your client and I ask you to design for me a truly durable and useful todo list.</p>
<p>I can imagine a variety of reactions to this request.  One might be &#8220;Why in the world do you need me to design a todo list when there are like a gazillion todo lists already out there?&#8221; Another might be a shrugging of the shoulders, thinking I&#8217;m giving you a chance to make some easy money to design yet another todo list. But if you&#8217;ve really been around the design block a few times, you&#8217;d know better than to assume that a seemingly simple request coming from a client really is that simple.  (In my experience, that is rarely, if ever, the case.)</p>
<p>So, you dutifully inquire further as to what my specific needs are relating to a todo list, i.e. when and where I&#8217;d be using it, what type of todo items I&#8217;d be entering, how I&#8217;m currently managing my todo items and so forth.  Here is one of my responses:</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;ve used all kinds of todo list software, from the new Gmail Tasks, to 37 Signal&#8217;s Tada Lists, to just typing stuff into notepad or Google docs. Many of these pieces of software are very simple and elegant and user-friendly, but, even so, what always happens is that I use it for a while, eagerly typing in everything I need to do, but then I stop using it after maybe a week or two, sometimes less, usually because it&#8217;s just too much of a hassle to have to type stuff into these lists.  So I end up with todo items scattered all over the place.</p></blockquote>
<p>Whoa, wait a second here.  Maybe this todo list thing isn&#8217;t that simple after all.  Taking an Alan Cooperish what-if-software-was-magical approach, you ask me what my ideal dream todo list might look like, setting aside any technical or logistical constraints.</p>
<blockquote><p>For me, the issue is primarily with the hassle of having to enter items, of having to get in front of a keyboard and fire up some application when I think of something important, especially when I simply can&#8217;t or don&#8217;t have the time, maybe I&#8217;m riding my bike, in the shower, in the midst of a conversation with someone, don&#8217;t have internet access, whatever.  So I end up not entering it, which of course negates the whole point of a todo list. So, in terms of my dream todo list, and this will sound a bit weird, I think it would have to be one which it basically reads my mind or something and when I think of something I need to do, it would add it to my todo list in the cloud, as in some kind of universally accessible list of stuff to do.</p>
<p>The other big issue is having to deal with categorizing and prioritizing todo items.  While I&#8217;d like for them to be organized nicely, I don&#8217;t want to deal with having to come up with categories not to speak of having to do the categorizing. So it would need to be able to somehow figure out how to group my todo items in a sensible way, such as work-related and personal todo items.  And as far as priorities go, I&#8217;d obviously want higher priority items to be more prominent, but the problem is that the priority of a todo list item changes for me depending on context and other factors.   For example, if I am at the office, even though I absolutely have to remember to pick up a bottle of wine on my way to the dinner party this evening, I don&#8217;t want that todo item cluttering my list of office todo items.  But if I maybe head out for lunch, then I&#8217;d want to see it, since my priorities and my context then has changed. Yeah, that would pretty much be the ideal dream todo list.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ok, so on one hand this is a dream todo list app, but let&#8217;s look at what this imaginary software tells us about current todo lists and design in general.</p>
<p><strong>The more contexts your design needs to support, the more complex it will be to design</strong><br />
A todo list is reflective of how the software we design is increasingly intertwined with people&#8217;s lives. As such, a todo list that a real person really can use in their day-to-day activity needs to work in all kinds of contexts.  Compare this to a todo list that strictly is for work-related items: in that case, I can maybe assume that the user will always be in front of computer and as such as traditional todo list might work.  But even that falls apart, since I may also be on the road, in a meeting with a client at a coffee shop, in front of a whiteboard.</p>
<p><strong>Categorization is a Catch-22 Conundrum</strong><br />
On the one hand, users like for stuff to be organized in a way that makes sense to them. At the same time, they are unlikely to want to have to deal with coming up with categories or with the hassle of categorizing.  While creating some generic todo list categories (e.g. work, personal, buy, etc.) is probably doable, user would still have to actually place stuff in those categories, which adds yet another obstacle, another micro-activity that will make the act of entering a todo list item less palatable.   </p>
<p><strong>Priorities are contextual </strong><br />
There are lots of things we think of as important, but only some of things are important in a given context.  This means that we can either have multiple todo lists for different contexts, which means a lot of busy work, which means we are likely to stop using the todo list.  Alternately, we could use category-specific indicators, such as high priority work, or high priority personal, but again, we are then back to the problem of too much hassle to deal with when enter a todo list item.</p>
<p><strong>Sometimes there really is no great solution within the digital domain </strong><br />
<em>With today&#8217;s mainstream technology, it is not possible to design a durable and truly useful todo list.  Please prove me wrong on this.</em></p>
<p>Instead, this is the todo list solution that I always find myself returning to:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.andersramsay.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/todo.jpg" alt="Using an old envelope as a todo list" title="todo" width="310" height="490" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-268" /></p>
<p>Yup, the back of an old envelope.  Why is this tattered looking thing better than any of the todo list software out there?</p>
<p><strong>It&#8217;s highly portable</strong><br />
For the very reason that it&#8217;s just an old used envelope, I can crumple it up and stick it in my pocket.  If I spill coffee on it or it gets a little torn or whatever, who cares?  </p>
<p><strong>It&#8217;s always immediately accessible</strong><br />
No booting up an iphone app or, yikes, a laptop, just to enter a lousy todo item.  No battery life or connectivity issues to think about.</p>
<p><strong>It constrains me to a reasonable amount of todo items</strong><br />
One of the biggest problems with most current todo lists is that they, in a knee-jerk nod to the idea that infinite scalability is a good thing, don&#8217;t impose a limit on how many todo items I have on my plate at any one time.  But a list of hundreds of todo items, I think, is pretty useless, as I am only going to be able to do a few of the items within the near term.   So, the size of the envelope constrains me to a reasonable amount that usually matches what I can complete in a day.</p>
<p><strong>It allows for ad-hoc prioritization and categorization</strong><br />
Since I can write anywhere on the envelope, I can add little stars or underlines or write in all caps or whatever to show that something is important.  </p>
<p>But, of course, using the back of an envelope for a todo list has all kinds of drawbacks, which leads to another UX lesson:</p>
<p><strong>Design is not about finding the ideal solution; it&#8217;s about finding the ideal compromise</strong><br />
Obviously, using the back of an envelope or a piece of paper has all kinds of drawbacks, from that you have to manually transfer todo items that weren&#8217;t completed to a new piece of paper, or that you could easily misplace it, or that all your scribblings could quickly turn into a big jumbled mess.  But weighing all those drawbacks against the strengths of the solution, I still kep find myself returning to this method after temporarily trying some new software-based todo list.</p>
<p>Is it just me or are others having similar experiences, finding digital todo lists just not workable in the long term?</p>
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		<title>Lose stuff, get things done</title>
		<link>http://www.andersramsay.com/2006/04/04/lose-stuff-get-things-done</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 02:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My good friend Jorge recently recommended the book Getting Things Done to me. I guess the fact that I blew through the book in a few short hours is in itself testament to the power of this book. Just like another great short book, the very compactness is testament to the ability of the author [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My good friend <a href="http://www.jarango.com/en/">Jorge </a> recently recommended the book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0142000280/sr=8-1/qid=1144167525/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-0725684-8055023?%5Fencoding=UTF8"> Getting Things Done</a> to me. I guess the fact that I blew through the book in a few short hours is in itself testament to the power of this book. Just like <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321344758/sr=8-1/qid=1144167716/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-0725684-8055023?%5Fencoding=UTF8">another great short book</a>, the very compactness is testament to the ability of the author to make their point without a lot of rambling (and yes, all you door-stopper computer book tomes sitting up there on my shelf, I&#8217;m talking to you &#8211; why is it that computer books so often are so darn chunky?) &#8211; but the idea of compactness, or I guess lightness, is actually also a core theme of the book itself, such as keeping your email inbox empty, as in unloading and keeping unloaded a lot of excess stuff so that you can focus on what really matters. Yes, I did say keeping the email inbox empty &#8211; after I was about half way through the book, I made myself a resolution to clear out about 100 emails a day (in addition to new emails), which means it would&#8217;ve taken me about two weeks and change to clear out the inbox. But when I started clearing it out, I found myself to be on such a roll that I ended up cleaning the whole thing out in less than a week. The fact that I was using <a href="http://mail.google.com/">Gmail </a>is important to note here, since it wasn&#8217;t really a question of having to commit to deleting stuff, rather it was a question of organizing all those emails into a few large buckets like &#8216;reply&#8217; &#8216;todo&#8217; &#8216;purchases&#8217; and &#8216;review later&#8217; to mention a few, and then just outright archive the ones I couldn&#8217;t catgorize. Now my inbox is actually once again an inbox(!) This whole idea of lightness is of course not unique to being organized. I remember reading <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060799919/sr=8-1/qid=1144168334/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-0725684-8055023?%5Fencoding=UTF8">a great book about raw food detox diets</a>, in which I didn&#8217;t really go for the whole raw foods thing, but one statement in the book has stayed with me: waste = weight. And another one: the more processed the food is that you eat, the more difficulty your body will have in breaking it down &#8211; if you eat an apple, your body will go &#8211; cool, I know what that is!, but if you eat a Twinkie, your body will go, hmmm&#8230;not sure what to do with this stuff, let me set it aside and get back to it later. Which gets me back to the whole inbox thing. Essentially, a bloated inbox is like an invisible weight, a collection of stuff that likely contains a lot of waste, which you have to wade through to find the important stuff. Just like the idea behind raw foods (and meditation, I guess, since that&#8217;s all about clearing out your mind, tho&#8217; don&#8217;t qoute me on that as I ain&#8217;t no meditation expert), or just generally about clearing out &#8216;stuff&#8217; &#8211; I recently went through a couple closets to make some more room in my Brooklyn apartment, and ended up taking an entire carload of &#8216;stuff&#8217; to a nearby Salvation Army Thrift store &#8211; it was like getting my apartment back! Maybe it&#8217;s just me, but I seem to see the whole idea of lightness in such a wide range of places &#8211; another one is in the new eBook <a href="https://gettingreal.37signals.com/">&#8220;Get Real&#8221;</a> by 37 Signals &#8211; they spend a lot of time talking about keeping things stripped down (such as in a section called &#8216;Hold the Mayo&#8217;), describing it as a win-win for both the developer and the user. There is a lot that I don&#8217;t agree with in the book, but the whole idea of lightness definitely resonated. One thing lightness doesn&#8217;t prevent, it seems, is rambling ;)</p>
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